The_Code> ok, i will start with: welcome to easy-ltsp gsoc meeting :)
<The_Code> what happened the last two weeks:
<The_Code> i managed to get my makefile finished
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<The_Code_> did you get my last lines?
<kl_eisbaer> last one - i managed to get my makefile finished
<The_Code_> there are now two versions available for test
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<The_Code_> one for openSUSE containing the kiwi-ltsp part at: http://forgeftp.novell.com/kiwi-ltsp/easy-ltsp-0.4-opensuse.tar.gz
<The_Code_> and one for other distros containing just the lts.conf part: http://forgeftp.novell.com/kiwi-ltsp/easy-ltsp-0.4-other.tar.gz
<The_Code_> i made some look changes to the ui, giving the dialogs better titles
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<The_Code_> if a lts.conf is specified in easy-ltsp.conf and it exists it will be loaded automatically at startup
<The_Code_> also there is now a userconfiguration handling the last used lts.conf file or xml file
<cyberorg> cool, so now packagers can package for their distros, and put lts.conf path according to their setup preconfigured
<The_Code_> i will update the tarball one more time later today, but yes they can
<cyberorg> we need someone to debianize the package, we can build it on the oBS
<cyberorg> let me know when i can start with my feedback
<The_Code_> i am currently giving save and cancel button in the section back their functionality
<kl_eisbaer> i can try to build a .deb package if nobody else does
<The_Code_> you can start with your feedback
<cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, it would be good to have ubuntu and debian packages available as well
<cyberorg> The_Code_, "Save" button in the UI, what does it do exactly?
<kl_eisbaer> what about deciding per make options if the resulting code should contain opensuse specific things
<The_Code_> atm nothing, but it will write to the currently loaded file in about 1h
<kl_eisbaer> sorry, looks like 11.1 locks the capslock
<cyberorg> The_Code_, instead of two tarballs, create one tarball, and we can use --with-kiwi-ltsp to build for suse
<cyberorg> ./configure  --with-kiwi-ltsp
<The_Code_> good will include this
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<cyberorg> ok, another thing is "Load" xml and lts.conf button is broken
<cyberorg> Settings > preference > choose
<cyberorg> sorry that one ^^
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<The_Code> ok, will check it
<cyberorg> The_Code, also alignments everywhere needs fixing, including in kiwi-ltsp section
<cyberorg> The_Code, go in advanced configuration, all the subsections are aligned differently
<cyberorg> next steps : backup/restore - are we doing it by file or per variable?
<The_Code> per file would be easy :)
<cyberorg> ok, lets do it that way
<cyberorg> "August 11: Suggested 'pencils down' date. Take a week to scrub code, write tests, improve documentation, etc"
<cyberorg> http://en.opensuse.org/Summer_of_Code_2008#Important_dates
<The_Code> my plan is that a click on the cancel button resumes to the last saved state
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<cyberorg> sounds good
<cyberorg> The_Code, i think we have covered everything we could in this SOC timeline :)
<The_Code> one thing, i currently autosave the conf if the user hasn't saved it, should i ask him to save?
* The_Code thinks so too
<cyberorg> if there is a "Save" button we should leave it to users to save
<The_Code> so i ask him on quit
<cyberorg> yes
<The_Code> another thing, /usr/sbin /usr/bin
<The_Code> root tool or user tool
<cyberorg> it should be /usr/sbin
<cyberorg> as everything we change is accessible by root only, /etc/easy-ltsp and lts.conf
<The_Code> k, next thing i have is keyboard task
<cyberorg> but as we discussed, user should be able to open it read-only and save in their home folder
<The_Code> of course
<cyberorg> what tasks are remaining apart from keyboard?
<The_Code> imo it is enough to set XkbModel, XkbLayout ?
<cyberorg> yes
<kl_eisbaer> The_Code: yes
<The_Code> all others we have defined are there
<cyberorg> great, once the GUI beautification is done, you can start on code documentation and cleanup
<kl_eisbaer> The_Code, cyberog: so we switch to /usr/bin ß
<The_Code> good so keyboard task will be there real soon
<cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, yeah
<kl_eisbaer> so the desktop entry should call kdesu or something similar currently ?
<kl_eisbaer> as the gui is currently just for root
<cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, xdg-su
<kl_eisbaer> or should the normal user also be able to start it ?
<The_Code> normal user should be able to start it
<kl_eisbaer> ok
<cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, no point in starting it read-only, saving it in home, then copying it over, so users can start manually running easy-ltsp if they want to
<cyberorg> but when clicking .desktop it should run xdg-su easy-ltsp
<The_Code> i am checking if user has writepermission on the file he is loading
<cyberorg> The_Code, we now have fl_teachertool in our repo, see how it detects MAC addresses, you may want to use it for adding clients
<The_Code> will take a look at it
<cyberorg> /sbin/arp "+dummy.ip+" |grep -v HWaddress|awk '{print $3}'
<cyberorg> something like this in fl_teachertool-0.60/fl_teachertool.cxx
<The_Code> good
<cyberorg> that's all from me, kl_eisbaer you got anything to add?
<cyberorg> anyone else here want to know more about easy-ltsp GUI?
<cyberorg> The_Code, once you roll out single tarball with fixed Makefile, kl_eisbaer can you look at debanizing it too?
<kl_eisbaer> nothing from my side - just ping us when the tarball is ready
<The_Code> will do
<kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: yes, will create a debian package
<cyberorg> i've updated kiwi-ltsp addon CD http://forgeftp.novell.com/kiwi-ltsp/iso/
<cyberorg> later i'll add easy-ltsp and italc in there too
<kl_eisbaer> ok
<The_Code> one thing, i am i allowed to change http://en.opensuse.org/Easy-LTSP to fit the current state?
<cyberorg> The_Code, of course :)
<kl_eisbaer> The_Code: feel free ...
<The_Code> good, then i will change it
<The_Code> cyberorg, i saw you refered to the page in your talk, so i thought this would be needed
<cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, you saw mukt.in slides?
<cyberorg> it has some explanation of how ltsp works in simple terms
<kl_eisbaer> yes - nice 1
<cyberorg> it was more of a practical, so not that many slides
<kl_eisbaer> me is just wondering when you add the workflows in the wiki
<cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, the flow chart that is in the slide?
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<kl_eisbaer> yes
<cyberorg> ok, will do it right away
<kl_eisbaer> thanks
<kl_eisbaer> take both, the one for ltsp and the one for kiwi-ltsp
<cyberorg> i need to add live CD and USB in kiwi-ltsp-setup flowchart
<cyberorg> The_Code, you'd have to add kiwi-ltsp-setup -u and kiwi-ltsp-setup -cd to the kiwi-ltsp menu to create live USB/CD
<The_Code> will be added